Thanks so much for show, Rosemary Moore I tried both Cleverbot and Eliza and both were quite dissappointing. I just tried to have a normal chat and tell them a little about my self. It's an interesting perspective, but rather than just protesting that it "feels" wrong or insufficient, Krulwich could have taken a moment to tell listeners that behaviorism has been largely supplanted by cognitivism in modern science, which has shown that mental states do correspond with physiological states in the brain - and that these are qualitatively and quantitatively very different from what is going on inside the Furby. He has obviously dedicated himself to his work with the same passion he showed for performance. Listening to Caleb Chung talk about how machines like Furby and humans are both alive made me think about B. Here is my conversation with Cleverbot: Cleverbot: Are you a clone? It seemed to me that the only distinction of human thought is that we do not completely understand it."If I had all of the necessary parts to make a Furby, I could assemble them to working order.I think I person would have to be quite desperate for company to have several hour conversations with either of them, but especially with cleverbot. This episode could have really benefitted from an interview with Dan Dennett, and for the last story, you danced around the "Chinese Room" problem but never actually addressed it, which is an important concept in AI that would have bolstered the argument Krulwich was trying to make. If I had all of the proper organs and body parts of a human and I sewed them together like Frankenstien, I could not bring that human to life." Actually, what you're missing in both cases is a power source.A moving story about a Vietnam vet brother coming from her mouth NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE HOW DID THE TECHNOLOGY OF ROBOT COME up with that? Most fascinating since it's a step beyond robot answering who is Hillary Clinton. Customer service, health insurance, law, finance, education ... listening to this podcast I was on Facebook and saw this status of a 16 year old that I know: "So I'm cleaning my room at 2 in the morning (don't ask why but at least my mom should be happy that I'm even cleaning it) and I am going through this box and I see my ferbie... I honestly thought it was gonna murder me." Thought it was fitting. He taught a workshop on falling, jumping and physical applications of mime and clowning. Chung is accurate when suggesting that machines are just as alive as humans. Skinners "Beyond Freedom and Dignity" book to get a better outlook. Krulwich's assertion that interacting with a robot isn't "real." If a human being is programmed to respond or feel because of past behavioral reinforcement histories, is that any more real that a computer generated response doing the same thing. User: He was brought up amidst the war in Vietnam and although surrounded by the devastation of his homeland he committed his life to peace in the world. The key question that never got answered (I think that they do this on purpose, dancing all around it tantalizingly) is whether we are alive.Instead the commentators just marveled at it in a way that excluded listener. a series of checklists and calculated gradations to categorize and direct a set of tasks. are we making machines smarter or dumbing down the rest of society so that they fit in better? The Furby thing is interesting, but the discussion with Caleb Chung could have benefitted from just another 30 seconds of digging into his argument - it's rooted in the kind of thinking that underlies behaviorism, a theory of mind that was cutting edge in the first half of the last century. I am very happy to hear that he has found a vocation where his study of human gesture has been put to such good use. From a behaviorist perspective, love, hate, thinking, freedom, etc," are conceptual labels that we use to describe a behavioral set. If this is the case then any programmer could replicate a behavioral set to produce the construct. Our affinity to feel "real" does not lie outside of ourselves but rather is interpreted internally! Chris Fernandes, LMHCBehavioral Psychotherapist Thank you again for a wonderful show. That is, from a completely materialistic pov, once we totally understand how our own brains work, will we be able to say that we are any more alive than a program that we also understand completely.one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a many comment talking about DR MACK, some said he can restore broken relationship, i had no choice than to contact him on Dr Mack, i got a reply from him telling me that i will have my husband back. my Husband James Scot left me for another woman for three months' ever since then my life have been filled with pains sorrow and heart break because he was my first love who disflowered me when i was 21 years old. We've been connecting with objects even before ancient Greeks talked to their weapons. So this makes me think about the recent episode of This American Life, where they take the Psychopath Test. Mark Johnson Without sounding like a cynical nutcase - the music industry, television, movies, literature, fashion trends... A person that does well on the free site is more likely to decide to play for money. The site's dirty little secret is that it uses computer programs to generate articles about stocks in the news. I love the subject, but for crying out loud, just get him on the show and settle the matter: "Mind is a pattern perceived by a mind."There was an interview this week on NPR with an author whose topic was "filtering" by the various entities on the internet, both manevolent and well-intended. I would suggest that Cleverbot's response in this case indicates that it is fully human, just psychopathic. I'm in no way an expert on any of this, but listening to Jad and Caleb Chung argue about life and whether or not a Furby has what constitutes life made me want to comment.i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that my husband is back. about two years ago, A friend of mine rose donly told me he saw some testimonies of this great priest tokubo that he can bring back lover within 24 hours, i laugh it out and said i am not interested but because of the love my friend had for me, she consulted the great priest on my behalf and to my greatest surprise after 24 hours my boyfriend is going to call me for the very first time after three months that he is missing me and that he is so sorry for every thing he made me went through. Maybe the intelligence of objects in the future will encourage us to regain a more connective spirit. The following is a passage from the Upanishads: it would take a machine more than intelligence to experiencing the same sentiment: Then he realized, "I am indeed this creation for I have poured it forth from myself." In that way he became this creation, and verily he who knows this becomes a creator in this creation.chris from LA wrote: "Elite it up, don't dumb it down. Essentially, being a psychopath means that you show no empathy. they're all criticized when they're too formulaic - but that doesn't stop their rise to popularity. The site generates hundreds of articles every month in an attempt to draw people to the site. Basically about the little wormy programs that collect information about us while we are on line. What possible profit can be gained by operating a flirt-bot on an on-line dating service? The furby thing made me laugh-- reiminded of a trip i took with my ex and his stepdaughtershe had gotten a furby for Christmas - we were on our christmas vacation traveling across the country to see my ex-inlaws. Bot: I don't know what to do about my sadness Me: Radiolab Bot: Makes sense link to screencap would happen if we set two "sentient" bots down to have a conversation of their own? It seems Caleb was arguing about what constitutes life in psychological terms--that the Furby can process and react to stimuli means it's alive.He was single at the time, and it seemed like everyone was getting into online dating. Nabokov's Speak, Memory is just one tribute to Mnemosyne, mother of our muses and of our sense of self. After all, we humans talk to ourselves, to books, to games--we literally animate things (and often people! For myself, I have had "in my head conversations" with authors and editors. It also makes me miss NYC..mostly you guys make me Think. I was hoping you'd talk more about the philosophical level; if these machines could think, act, speak, behave, and understand just like people. The military was unsure what they could learn and were afraid of these things being used for espionage! As a kid in the 80's I played with the computer script psychoanalyst too. You've had a long run, covered so many interesting concepts so wonderously, it seems like as you have to stretch further and further for new material, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel rather than the top of it. You're so good at explaining and making complex concepts digestible, I wish you'd pursue that challenge rather than just making the show for high schoolers who dropped out of science class. While they were there, Scott actually perished whereas my grandfather was part of the Northern party, anyway they killed seals and penguins to survive. While the two can have overlapping components they are not the same.
I don't think anyone can 'create' a conscious being/computer, but I do think one may be able to 'invite' consciousness to take up residence in a structure that is properly built and that contains sufficient programming attributes to allow for interaction with the external world. Cleverbot: Yes I hear all.me: What did you hear about it? Cleverbot: Nope, but you're related by marriage.me: This isn't going too well, is it? Furby might not experience real fear, but neither does E. This show recently debated if a lock-picking orangutan was practicing deception or if dogs feel shame.
Maybe including ideas from Thaler, Hamerhof and Penrose would be helpful. Cleverbot: I listen to their music.me: Sorry--wrong answer. This question is also hard to answer without a clear definition of what emotions are uniquely human.
Then enters the cautionary note of really considering what one was doing and the implications that the conscious computer would be a living entity .shares the same basic consciousness 'stuff' that we biologics do , but uses different hardware. However, a dog's ability to experience shame does not affect its ability to be alive.
Silicon based intelligence becoming self aware ......seems I saw this in a movie once ......"I'll be back" Asimov's story some 50 years ago depicting the computer "realizing" the human is not necessary to complete the space trip .... Because to my ears that's like saying, "Humans evolved from other life forms over billions of years? If I had all of the proper organs and body parts of a human and I sewed them together like Frankenstien, I could not bring that human to life.
Hmmmmm Great story What about the idea of using multi-walled carbon nanotubes as a biomimetic structure in place of microtubules. I just can't go there,"and then later saying, "you know, the punctuated equilibrium guys, Stephen Jay Gould and them? I think you guys missed a huge part of this topic by not covering Hiroshi Ishiguro, who has been seriously working on creating a human like androids at Osaka University.